After finally playing my way through Legend of Zelda: The Link Between Worlds I've…

After finally playing my way through Legend of Zelda: The Link Between Worlds I've been reviewing my play of the various Zelda games and realized I never did Phantom Hourglass or Spirit Tracks for the DS, even though I clearly remember OWNING one of them at one point.

Couldn't remember why they never got touched… then I started playing them, and remembered.  The horrible, horrible controls.  You have to touch the screen, almost constantly, which does not jive with my control sensibilities.  They neutered the D-Pad and the A/B buttons, so they do (essentially) nothing.

For me, at least, they have made the game (let's face it) essentially unplayable.  I seem to recall them shoehorning a bunch of "touch screen" functions into games in the late 2000s, I guess I had just blocked it out of my memory.  At least they wised up by the time they made Link Between Worlds.

It's a shame, a real shame, Nintendo.

After finally playing my way through Legend of Zelda: The Link Between Worlds I’ve been reviewing my play of the various Zelda games and realized I never did Phantom Hourglass or Spirit Tracks for the DS, even though I clearly remember OWNING one of them at one point.

Couldn’t remember why they never got touched… then I started playing them, and remembered.  The horrible, horrible controls.  You have to touch the screen, almost constantly,

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28 Responses to “After finally playing my way through Legend of Zelda: The Link Between Worlds I've…”

  1. Jim Hanson March 19, 2015 at 10:45 pm #

    Oh, hey, look, apparently I'm not the only one that took issue with this crap…

    http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/2235/

  2. Steven Hawk March 19, 2015 at 11:07 pm #

    I played through both and it didn't bother me at all. Not my favorite Zelda games but I liked the story and it had entertaining and sometimes challenging puzzles.

    Opinions.

  3. Sam Mitchell March 19, 2015 at 11:08 pm #

    I actually liked the DS games.., don't hate me. They gave a good variance from the originals

  4. Jim Hanson March 19, 2015 at 11:18 pm #

    I think it's just that I've been powering my way through the stuff I had on the 3DS – Link Between Worlds, Four Swords Anniversary Edition, Minish Cap, Link's Awakening, and Oracle of Seasons – so this change in style is completely jarring and not cool.

  5. Steven Hawk March 19, 2015 at 11:22 pm #

    +Jim Hanson It's understandable! There are many who didn't like those games because of the heavy use of the touch screen.. Tbh I would've rather had them use to joy stick. I would def recommend you try and look past the controls and try these games out because they are still pretty entertaining ^_^

  6. Christopher Perras March 19, 2015 at 11:32 pm #

    flips you off fack you. They are awesome.

  7. Sayuri RedFox March 20, 2015 at 8:09 am #

    It's a shame. A damn shame, nintendo is awesome. More retro than most, definitely cool. But advancing society is, nintendo retro they will stay and popular they might be. Sony & Microsoft, advancing they are. Recover nintendo they won't.

  8. Ashlinn Forsyth March 20, 2015 at 9:10 am #

    I have Albw 99℅ complete

  9. Jim Hanson March 20, 2015 at 9:14 am #

    +Steven Hawk The slightly less-than-legal link I posted at the beginning is helping considerably.  I don't normally approve of roms, etc, but I figure if I've got a copy of the game, if I want to load up a virtual copy of the same game where someone has remapped the controls to the buttons (AS THEY SHOULD BE) then that's about as legit a use of emulation and roms as I have ever heard.

  10. Tristan McQueen March 20, 2015 at 11:05 am #

    Does it make your hand cramp or something? why are you such a pussy, Jim? Nah, they should have made the controls optional; controlling the boomerang was basically the only thing they were necessary for.

  11. Ryan Angeline March 20, 2015 at 11:54 am #

    +Jim Hanson dude you have to try spirit tracks again, you can and will get used to the controls and once you do you will have a blast, please trust me if you're a Zelda fan you do not want to miss out on that one, it gets sooooo good, if you only play one spirit tracks or phantom hour glass, do spirit tracks it's way better. They did some really clever things in spirit tracks with the microphone and the touch pad with the boomerang, just, trust me, it's good, soooo under rated

  12. Navi -Kelly Brown- March 20, 2015 at 12:24 pm #

    I've played phantom hourglass twenty times and beat it ten, spirit tracks is a pain in the ass and haven't been able to finish the song that you have to do with the water guy. With Between worlds, its really easy.

  13. Hilary Hatch March 20, 2015 at 12:45 pm #

    THAT'S what I keep forgetting to bring to Alabama! I couldn't remember what I'd been doing before internet here, and the answer is Zelda.

    I think I stopped playing because stylus plus painting all day was resulting in awful cramps.

  14. Jim Hanson March 20, 2015 at 12:58 pm #

    +Tristan McQueen I've been handheld gaming since the mid-80s with my first Game and Watch.  Gameboy, Game Gear, GBC, Game.Com, the Lynx, Wonderswan, NeoGeo Pocket, PSP, DS, now 3DS – they all use the exact same set of controls, same layout, same muscle memory.  Having to completely abandon that and relearn everything for the touch screen, when there are perfectly good buttons RIGHT THERE asking to be pressed…. 

  15. Tristan McQueen March 20, 2015 at 1:00 pm #

    <Insert trite "You merely adopted gaming" meme>

  16. Ian Haupert March 20, 2015 at 2:49 pm #

    There was nothing wrong for the controls for what they were aiming for. A pick-up-and-play, fun casual (unlike a lot of people I don't think that's the dirtiest word in existence)  Zelda game. I too prefer what was done in LBW, but this was a fun new direction.

    The real offense is how bad of a friggin game Phantom Hourglass is. And how much the the flute parts in Spirit Tracks suck, despite it being a much, much better game.

  17. John L. Voegeli March 20, 2015 at 5:33 pm #

    I put my original DS away when it seemed like games were developed so poorly with such poor controls in favor of the disabled D-pad and buttons.  Really happy the 3DS games I've been playing seem to have been developed better.

  18. Pizza Joe March 20, 2015 at 6:40 pm #

    What Toon Link figure is that?

  19. MASTERSHADOWLINX March 20, 2015 at 7:55 pm #

    I find it odd that I always get the games that work well when others get ones that don't work, controls were fine on my DS, none of the controls had problems working. And why would 3DS games focus on the touch screen? The touch screen turned into something you can look at and say to yourself, "Heh, I can make things happen with my finger."

  20. Jim Hanson March 21, 2015 at 12:06 am #

    Some of you were apparently muted/blocked as spam.  I dunno why.  All the comments were cool, so I unmuted all of you.

  21. jared reeder March 21, 2015 at 2:09 pm #

    i want that soooo bad

  22. AnneMarie Pool March 21, 2015 at 8:59 pm #

    HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!! "horrible controls". I beat Phantom Hourglass easily on my crappy D.S. thanks to the controls. The control pad barely works, the L and R buttons are constantly giving out, and not to mention the screen was scratched. But because most of the controls were based around the stylus, not only did I have fun, but I got through the game in a less than a month. The controls. ARE. AAAMAZING!

  23. Jim Hanson March 22, 2015 at 11:32 am #

    I'm curious – which Zelda game was your first, +AnneMarie Pool 
    +Christopher Perras +Ryan Angeline +Navi -Kelly Brown- +MASTERSHADOWLINX?

  24. Christopher Perras March 22, 2015 at 11:37 am #

    Phantom Hourglass. Wow.

  25. Ryan Angeline March 22, 2015 at 12:44 pm #

    +Jim Hanson this might be an unpopular opinion, but I really think spirit tracks isn't far behind wind WAKER, but yea my favorite is wind WAKER

  26. Jim Hanson March 22, 2015 at 12:48 pm #

    The reason I was asking, +Christopher Perras +Ryan Angeline, et al is that I think when you started playing and what controls you're used to might change your opinion of these.  Like I had said earlier, I was 7 games into the franchise when I hit these, and 6 of those (all except Wind Waker) had essentially the same control scheme. 

    Since these games are sequels to WW, it makes sense that their controls are more in line with that experience, but for me the controls are just… wrong… based on all the other experiences I've had with Zelda.  (I also forsook the Wiimote for traditional controls for Twilight Kingdom).  But if you started at WW or with the Wii games, you're not as used to the d-pad and AB button layout, so it's understandable that you're more flexible.

  27. AnneMarie Pool March 22, 2015 at 1:08 pm #

    +Jim Hanson A Link to the Past. Then Twilight Princess. I've played about 6 LOZ games in all.

  28. effusivevoid March 22, 2015 at 1:36 pm #

    Link : ) !! Have no clue what your talking about though, lol.

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